Dating In Reverse
"Dating In Reverse" is a candid and hilarious podcast where two friends share outrageous dating stories, play games like "Hump,Wed,Slash" and dive into why modern dating culture feels so broken-- all while inviting listeners to join the conversation with their own wild experiences.
Dating In Reverse
The Haunting
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Welcome to Dating In Reverse! In our premiere episode, Heatherr takes ghosting to a whole new level with the time her Tinder date disappeared so hard, she thought she might've accidentally k*lled him! Meanwhile, Kay finds herself on a date gone wrong in a haunted theater--where the scariest thing might not have been her date.
We're spilling all the tea, playing Hump, Wed, Slash (our twist on F***, Marry, Kill), and diving into some of our biggest "icks" and "licks" when it comes to dating. Prepare to be haunted by the chaos!
He was dead. That was it. That's what happened. He went to the hospital. Somehow died. Nobody's gonna know for a couple days like, oh my god, I'm going to jail. This is it. This is, this is the rest of my life now, I guess. Let me just, you know, have fun for the rest of this weekend.
KayIf you go to jail, this is not the way. that you want.
HeatherRight. Cause I killed my Tinder date.
KayCause you killed. Welcome in heathens, this is Dating in Reverse, where we acknowledge the weird and wild cesspool dating culture has become, but we're still diving in head first. I'm Kay Heather.
HeatherI'm Heather Nicole.
KayAnd we're always sharing outrageous date stories, playing a few classic games. So grab your tipple, moisturize your lips, take a hit, and come join us. We've got some personal stories today, and as we grow and expand, we'd like to hear from you. We'll let you know where you can submit your stories at the end of the episode, so stick around for that. In the meantime, hear our personal stories involving haunted theater and possibly dead people?
HeatherDeath. Yep.
KayWe'll also be playing our own game, Icks and Licks, and a quick round of Hump, Wed, Slash, our version of F. marry Kill. So join in on the fun, let us know your thoughts in the comments, cause this is your slumber party too.
HeatherI had met this guy on Tinder. We had already gone on a few dates. I want to say we're probably like two months in at this point, which that's, that's a long time in the dating world.
KayEspecially with the Tinder.
HeatherYeah, absolutely. Absolutely. My little pocket boyfriend that I've talked bout.
KayPocket boyfriend.
HeatherDang it. So he had, it was a summer. I don't know. I don't know if, all I know is there was a three day weekend. I don't know if it's because of a holiday or because he just happened to have three days off, but this starts on a Friday and then there was a three day weekend.
KayOkay.
HeatherSo he started off his Friday outside hiking.
KayOkay.
HeatherI don't know exactly where he was hiking, but he said he had been outside for a while. And so he comes over to my house and at that point it's like Friday evening and I'm like, all right, let's smoke, drink. Whatever. He was not a smoker. He was not a green smoker. Remember that? We go outside, we're sitting on my patio. The very first thing we do is take a shotgun. 'cause this is when I first started shotgunning. Um,
Kayyou shotgun?
HeatherYeah. Oh gosh. I love to shotgun and I never used to do it.
KayA badass girl over here.
HeatherYes.
KayI love it.
HeatherI was like, let's do a shotgun. And I felt like maybe he didn't even drink before. I don't know. But I felt like I was his first time I, everything
KayWas he straight edge??
HeatherI think he was on purpose. I think he just didn't really, and then he was so tiny. So yeah, my little pocket boyfriend. So I was like, all right, let's shotgun. And he was like, yeah, let's shotgun too. And he did it just as fast as I did. So I was like, Oh, I guess like, he knows what he's doing too. Okay. So we did a shotgun. We might've done two shotguns. Cause we did them with like, uh, I think I was drinking like some kind of Celsius at that point. So they're not like crazy strong. Are they more than beers? It's probably the same. Anyway.
KayA Celsius?
HeatherYeah. Right?
KayAren't they just like energy drinks?
HeatherNo, not, um. Oh my gosh. Yes. No, um. Oh my God. What are they called? What is the word?
KaySeltzer.
HeatherSeltzer. There we go. So we were, so we shotgun a seltzer. I'm sorry. And I think we might have did. Two of them and then I was like, do you you want to take a hit of my bowl? And he was like, absolutely. I was like, okay, cool. So we're sitting out there. We're talking He was telling me about how he went hiking and then he told me he went hiking without water.
KayWho does that?
HeatherMen. He was outside in the heat No water.
KaySummertime.
HeatherYes.
KayHot.
HeatherI'm pretty sure the first drink that he had drank since he went on the hike was that shotgun.
KayOh God.
HeatherAnd then he smoked on top of it and I, maybe 10 minutes in, he like curled up in my egg chair. He like curled up in a ball and he was like, I don't feel good. And I was like, Oh my God, here we go. So I was like, have what we established even drank anything today, the water, have you ate? And he said, no. Oh,
Kayand he's tiny
Heatherand he was vegan. So he didn't want to eat anything in my house. I was like, I have a bunny. I have spinach. I have carrots. I have broccoli. You want to like a stock of broccoli? Like you need to get some kind of food in you. Cause he was dehydrating at that point.
KayOkay, so let's recap this. He went hiking with no water, didn't eat, drank on an empty stomach.
HeatherShotgunned.
KayShotgunned on an empty stomach. Took a hit on your bowl on an empty stomach, and then he's vegan, so he's like, I'm not even going to eat what you have in this house, even though you have vegetables, even though you have vegan food.
HeatherHe didn't, he didn't want anything. He just wanted to, at that point he was like, I, I think I need to just nap and I was like,
KayHe wants to sleep it off
Heatherthat's fine. Go ahead. Go to sleep. I was like, do you want to come in? Cause it's hot. He's like, no, I'm actually really, really comfortable here. So I was like, okay, that's fine. I always, I had a fan running. Out there when it gets super hot. So it wasn't too bad. It was fairly comfortable. So at that point I knew my child would be home later that day. So I was like, let me just get things done around the house. And then my child comes home and he's still out there sleeping on the chair. So I was like, okay, cool. Cause at this point, I wanted him to be gone. I didn't want him around my kids. It was going to be gone, but it's okay. My little man can just sleep it off there. Just do whatever we're doing. And then all of a sudden I hear him come stumbling down. I'm like, oh my gosh. He wanted to go in to the bathroom to throw up. And I'm like, oh my god, I did not clean my toilets for a stranger to come throw up. So I was like, oh my god, can I at least like clean up the toilet real quick before you throw up? And he's like, no, it's fine. So I was like, Okay, so he goes in there and shuts and locks the door. I mean, I could just pop it. I'm a mom. I know how to pop it open. I'm like, okay, so he locked the door.
KayHe locked the door to throw up.
HeatherI guess he wouldn't, he wanted no help at all. But meanwhile, I mean, I would have done anything at that point for him. He's little. I could have just scooped him up. I could have run him a little bath, whatever he needed. So he threw up and then he passed out on my floor. He stopped answering me. So I was like, yeah. So I was like, well, I need to get in at this point. So I was like knocking on the door. I was like, if you don't let me in, I'm just going to pop it. Like, I know how to pop the thing. And he was like, no, I'm okay. I'm sleeping on the floor because it's cold and it feels really good. So I was like, do you want a blanket? Do you want a towel? Do you, you want to wipe up? Do you want anything? And he was like, no, I'm fine. I'm like, okay. So, I honestly think at that point it's only seven because the sun was still kind of up. So I'm just gonna let him sleep. Thank God I have another bathroom so we just use the other bathroom. And it just goes on and on and he's still asleep and I'm knocking on the door and I'm like just trying to get him to answer me and he won't answer me. So I'm like I'm gonna have to get in. So I pop it to get in. He's right there. Like, like I could see him a little bit like curled up on the floor. But he is Up against the door. So I'm like, are you still at least alive? Like, can you grunt? Can you something? So he got a grunt out. That's all I got at this point. So I was like, okay, well, he's alive. We're just waiting. We're going to do whatever I need to do in the meantime.
KayKeep it moving.
HeatherAt this point, we're ready to go to sleep. It's like nine o'clock, but I was starting to get a little nervous. I started thinking about, he's been outside all day. He didn't eat. He didn't drink. Like he doesn't smoke. You can die from this stuff. So I was like, I need my child to stay with me at all times. So I have a character witness that I didn't do anything wrong.
KayMy alibi.
HeatherOh my God. This is, yes. My child was my alibi.
Kayhaha.
HeatherI. Was like just stay on your phone because this is the first time that I thought that he was dying So I'm like just stay on your phone. I'm like shopping for Vacation cuz I was getting ready to go on vacation. Just stay on your phone, you know, so God forbid something's happened He was a dying my floor sir officer. I've been on my phone the whole entire time I promise you and my child can vouch for that he Slept on that floor till four o'clock in the morning, which means I stayed up till four o'clock in the morning Just like every so often I was like don't lock the door again I just need to come in and I would like just put my hand in on top of him and just make sure that he Was breathing. So I was like, okay, that's all I could do. That's all the help he wants at this point I just need to make sure he's alive. He wakes up. He opens that door and he he was um, he was Italian, but you know, there's like people that are like Italian, but then there's like people that are Italian. He looked like an Italian man. It's like he had darkness to him and it was the summertime. He was white and he's like, I'm okay ish. Um, but I'm going to go home. I was like, absolutely. Just let me know when you get home. So he leaves. And he, he gets home. I know that he at least got home. I think he still didn't even text me. But I was just like, I need to know you're home. I'm going to keep calling you until you tell me you're home. He picked up on like the second call and he's like, I'm like, cool, great. Talk to you in the morning. So that leaves us in
Kayday one.
HeatherRight, exactly. So I'm like, okay, well, I'm good. He didn't die. We're good. We're good. This is when green wasn't legal. So I was like, oh my gosh. I'm going to go to jail for killing him with the illegal weed. And then, oh my gosh, at that point, I too, I didn't, I had stuff that I had bought and then I had stuff that my friend had bought, gotten me with her medical. So I was like, Oh my God, who am I taking down with me? The drug dealer or my best friend? So we're now to Saturday, Saturday morning. I didn't really hear anything from him, like whatever. I get up, go to the,
KayProbably still passed out
Heatherthat's not what I think, cause that all went on until like four o'clock, 4am. So this is afternoon. I go to the pool with my friend and finally get settled in about to sit down in the chair and then we're about to go get in the pool and I get a text from him and he's like, I'm going to go to the hospital. And I was like, uh, why?
KayYeah.
HeatherHe's like, I still don't feel good. And I was like, okay, you know, just be honest with them. Tell them you drank, tell them you smoked. Tell them you didn't eat or drink anything like just going down all the list of all the things he did wrong. I was like, just be honest with them. I was like, make sure you tell them that you do smoke green, smoke green. You're not gonna go to jail. Just be honest with them because so that they know what's going on.
KayYeah,
Heatherand let me know. Let me know what is going on. Saturdays goes by, I don't hear anything from him. Saturday night, I text him like, hey, how you doing? Nothing. was like, okay, cool. Whatever. Maybe he, Went to the hospital, dealt with that, which is an experience, and then went home.
KayYeah.
HeatherSo, it gets later on a Saturday night, and I'm like, you know what, I'm just gonna call him at this point. I call him, his phone's dead.
KayOh, straight to voicemail?
HeatherUh, yes. Yeah, yeah. Which, I guess maybe, thinking back on it, like, maybe he blocked me, but that's not what in my head. My first thought was, his phone is dead, and so is he. And I, for real, killed him and I need to, I did a little notes app where my kids are going to go, where my animals are going to go.
KayYou planned out everything?
HeatherI was so scared. I was like, I should call my mom and tell her what's going on, but I know that she would only make it worse.
KayYeah.
HeatherSo I was like, let me just. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just really scared. I was so scared that like I really did kill him and this was going to get national news and my ex was going to see me on the TV and be like, I knew it. I knew it. She threatened to kill me too. No, I never did. But she would have killed me too. And he would have just played into this. And I'd be in jail for my little pocket boyfriend who smoked a bowl and couldn't handle it.
KayOh my gosh.
HeatherSo Sunday rolls around. I don't sleep that night because again, I immediately went right to, he's dead because he said he Sunday morning, I call him again. His phone's still dead. At this point, I'm in full panic mode. I'm calling probably every five minutes at that point. Like, just going and again, I guess I could have been blocked, but I didn't think that.
KayBut like, if you got the voicemail, you're not blocked.
HeatherReally? Is that how it is on iphone? Yeah,
Kaybecause if you, if you call someone and you're blocked, it'll be like, Dun, dun, dun! This person, like, it will
HeatherAndroid's not like that. Android will just send you straight to Actually, you'll get one ring and then a voicemail, so that's how you can kind of know.
KayYou know what? Let me not say that, because I don't
HeatherLet us know.
KayYeah, you let us know how it happens when people get blocked.
HeatherBut blocking, just like, it didn't even He was dead. He was dead. That was it. That's what happened. He went to the hospital. Somehow died. Nobody's gonna know for a couple days like, oh my god, I'm going to jail. This is it. This is, this is the rest of my life now, I guess. Let me just, you know, have fun for the rest of this weekend.
KayIf you go to jail, this is not the way. that you want.
HeatherRight. Cause I killed my Tinder date.
KayCause you killed.
HeatherOh my god. This is why I don't smoke rookies anymore. No. No, no, no, no, no. That's Sunday. I'm still panicking, calling all through Sundays. And then again, three day weekend. So now I got to stress through Monday. So then I like started thinking like, calm down. Maybe he's not dead. Maybe just his phone's dead. Maybe whatever happened to him in the hospital. That's when I start thinking rationally like, okay, maybe he was in the hospital a little bit longer. They didn't bring a charger because he didn't remember to eat. He's not bringing a charger.
KayAnd you're not calling the hospital to check?
HeatherI didn't know his last name.
KayOh, Tinder boyfriend.
HeatherYeah. Yeah. If I knew his last name, if I had any, even like I, oh, you could best believe girl. I was trying to find it on Google. 'cause normally I could find things like that, but of course this time I couldn't find anything associated with the phone number. Oh, yes, I would. 'cause I knew where he lived, so I'm like, I could find the closest hospitals. Yeah. And call around. I'm like, should I do a welfare check? Like I'm so scared at this point, but I was like, no, I don't wanna like
Kaydraw attention.
HeatherRight. I don't wanna draw any attention to this. Jesus no. So. I have to stress out all day Sunday. And then, you know, Monday we're all, he was off. I think I had to work or maybe I didn't have to work for whatever reason. I had to stress through my, no, I didn't have to work. I was off. So maybe this must have been some kind of holiday weekend. So call him all through Monday. Still dead. Call him through the day on Monday. Every time I called, the phone was still dead. And I was like, okay, I'm going to calm down. This is what we're going to do. We're okay. Tuesday, he has to work. So just don't stress out until Tuesday. Call him on Tuesday around like 9am, you know, when he's getting into work.
KayLet me just say how annoyed I am that you have been contacting this person and he, whether he's dead or not dead, well, if he's dead, he can't contact you, but still, like, okay, alright.
HeatherNo, that's how it was at first. I was like, dude, I, you do not have to talk to me ever again.
KayLike, let me know. Signs of life.
HeatherYeah. And that's why when the phone was dead, because again, I never thought I'd block one, just dead. I was just so scared. Like my mind just immediately went there that I killed him.
KayYeah.
HeatherSo.
KayI could see how you went there.
HeatherYeah. But I was like, okay, well, if he's alive, he's going to pull it together by Tuesday at nine ish AM, whatever. So Tuesday morning I woke up and I was like, we're going to wait till nine AM. I'm going to wait till nine AM. I'm driving to work and I'm like about to throw up. I pulled over on the side, right? Like I can't do this anymore. Like, I just need to pull over. and call him. And it's summer, so like my kid's already asleep so at that point, I was probably always running late for work. It was probably like 8. 05 in the morning. So I pull over, pull into the little parking lot and I'm like, if his phone's dead, it's okay. Please, please, please, please, please, please, please, please ring. If his phone is still dead though, I'm turning around. I'm going home. Now I need to call my mom because now we're in panic mode.
KayRight, right.
HeatherSo I call him and his fucking phone rings. And I was like, all right, second ring, third ring. Fourth ring. Fuck it. Just let it go all the way to voicemail. And I got to voicemail and I was like, alright, he's alive. It's
KayYeah.
HeatherI didn't kill my pocket boyfriend. Lord fucking knows what happened to him, but whatever. Woop woop, we still going on vacation. We ain't going to jail. So we're good.
KayYes.
HeatherFlash forward to probably two years later? I finally get, I kept getting texts from a number that I didn't save and I'll block. So when you do block people on Android, you can still get their messages. It just sends it to a spam folder. So I check my spam folder every once in a while. And I kept seeing this number
Kaybecause
Heatheryeah, no, I actually
Kaywant to know when I block someone, I want to know that they still try to contact me.
HeatherIt'll just sit in a little folder and you can go back in. I, I didn't know what the number was, but I was like, it's not saved anymore. So obviously just. It's someone that did me dirty. And it was someone that I thought I killed.
KayBecause the block game is strong.
HeatherOh, absolutely. Absolutely. I'll block people for anything. I'll block people for things to say to you, the stranger.
KayYes. We block people around here. We protect our peace.
HeatherOh, absolutely. Absolutely. So the number kept coming up and then one day it hit me and I was like, That's him. That's my little pocket boyfriend. So I was like, what the fuck happened? He tried to, no,
Kaytwo years.
HeatherWhat the fuck happened? I don't want to hear anything else. Do not say anything else to me besides what the fuck happened that day. He went to the hospital and his phone died and he just had to sit there for a while because he did have to get an IV and all that and he had to stay overnight. He got back to his house on Sunday. Yes. Cause he kind of had to like stay through the night and gets home on Sunday and then just. slept and just wasn't worried about charging his phone.
KayOkay, but what happened on Tuesday when you called him?
HeatherSo I was like, okay Well, why didn't you you know respond to any of my text messages is like, hey, I just want to know you're alive I was embarrassed
Kaymen men.
HeatherI was like, well, I thought I fucking killed you So, never text me again. And that's the last time we ever talked?
KayOh my god.
HeatherBut I didn't murder anyone.
KayThe fact that he just couldn't even say anything. Tuesday night, Wednesday, like.
HeatherOh, and he popped up on the, you know that, are we dating the same dude?
KayYeah.
HeatherHe popped up in there. And I didn't go into much explanation, but I was like, he ghosted me so hard that I thought I killed him. So, good luck. He's really hot, but um, He might, Lord knows, I've never been ghosted that hard in my life.
KayWow.
HeatherNow I won't smoke anyone up. Now I won't shotgun anyone. Unless they know what they're doing.
KayWell, yeah, I mean, a shotgun is a shotgun. It's fun. That's fine. I think it was more on him, like hiking without water, dehydrated in the summertime. He didn't eat anything. It was a combination of all of that. Just the perfect storm of
Heatherright. That should have been embarrassed about. Yeah. Not getting sick on my floor. All of everything that led up to leaving my house. That's what you should be embarrassed about. Maybe that's what he was embarrassed about. But I tried to like help him so much, but oh god now there was no every once in a while I'll let someone come back, but fuck you. Fuck you. If you ever see this, fuck you. Oh my god And now I know the last four digits of his number because I will never he still tried since then a few more times to Hit me up boy
KayBye.
HeatherGo bother someone else. No.
KayDo we want to play hump wed slash?
HeatherYes I love this game. In every episode, we will play our version of F marry Kill, which is Hump Wed Slash. All right, You ready Girl. I have. The Crow, Brandon Lee, Tommy Lee, and Tom Hardy, the dude in Venom. So, who you going to hump?
KayOh my god, why do you keep giving me guys that are already dead?
HeatherWho's dead? Oh, never mind. Well, the characters still alive.
KayYeah, the characters. Okay, so are we doing character or are we doing actor?
HeatherWe're doing The Crow, specifically The Crow. Specifically. For this one, The Crow.
KaySo, what about Tom Hardy
Heathertom Hardy. Tom Hardy.
KayOkay.
HeatherJust Tom, in general. Okay.
KayAll right. Hump, wed, slash. Humping. The crow. Wed, Tom Hardy, because he's just beautiful, slashing, Tommy Lee. My mom would be like, what?
HeatherYeah, me too.
KayMy mom would be like, I'm humping that.
BothYeah.
HeatherYes, absolutely. So, yeah. Me, are we doing our?
KayYeah.
HeatherOkay. Hump. Hump. I'm definitely humping Tommy Lee. Without a doubt.
KayOkay.
HeatherI'm marrying the Crow, and I'm so sorry, Tom Hardy, we're gonna have to kill. I might try to hump him first, but
KayCan we get double humps?
HeatherRight, right.
KayOkay, in the horror movie vibe, you know, that's my thing. My favorite horror movie is Scream. Okay. So we're gonna go with those top three guys in the first Scream movie.
HeatherOkay.
KayOkay. Skeet Ulrich.
HeatherOkay.
KayMatthew Lillard.
HeatherOkay. Okay,
KayJamie Kennedy.
HeatherWell, I know that Jamie's gonna go. Sorry, James. Um, we're gonna slash him. Um, Mmm, I wouldn't be able to marry Matt. Is it Matt?
KayMatthew?
HeatherYeah, I won't be able to marry him. So he'd have to be humped cuz he's crazy. That's too crazy. So, I mean, we're both crazy, but um, so we're gonna hump Matt and then I guess we're gonna wed?
BothSkeet?
KayMine is actually probably the same. I'm going to hump Matthew Lillard, wed Skeet Ulrich. I've had a crush on Skeet Ulrich since 1996. Like, that man has always been beautiful. Um, and I love Jamie Kennedy. I think he's hilarious. Like, his movies are funny. And that would be a good, like, wed, if it wasn't for Skeet Ulrich. So, unfortunately, Jamie, I'm gonna have to slash you as well. Not because I hate you. But, out of those three options.
HeatherOoh, girl, you get to tell your story. Oh, I'm excited for this.
KayMy story kind of involves a haunting of sorts. I met a guy on Tinder and we were talking, I know everything, like, especially in this dating culture, everything's going to start with like Tinder. We were talking for a little bit. We had a lot in common, so we were like really excited about each other, but it just never happened where we could actually hang out. We just talked every single day.
HeatherRight. So talking.
KaySo. Eventually, he moved to Florida, and I was like, oh, okay, well, guess that's that, you know, whatever. Fast forward five years.
HeatherOoh!
KayYes, five years. Pandemic hits.
HeatherOkay.
KayAnd nobody is seeing each other anyway, so he hit me up on Snapchat, of all things. And I didn't even know I had him on Snapchat, by the way. I barely even use my Snapchat. So I was like, who is this? And then he sent me a picture and I was like, Oh, I remember you. What's up? And he's still hot. So I'm like, let's, you know, we're talking. We caught up on like regular phone, like out of Snapchat, caught up Florida's going well, whatever. He's like, you should come out here. And I'm like, you paying for it.
HeatherYou gonna fly me out?
KayYou gonna fly me out? So he's like, yeah, come, just come out and hang out with me for a weekend. And I was like, okay. Hmm.
HeatherFlorida?
KayFlorida. I mean, it was peak, like, COVID, though.
HeatherWell, everything was super cheap.
KayRight. So, everything was cheap.
HeatherWell, I mean, did Florida even shut down? I feel like that, my brother went to Florida, too. He's like, it didn't shut down.
KayYeah.
HeatherIt's still.
KayEverything was cheap. There wasn't many people flying, but I still felt really guilty about it. So, I didn't tell people that it was going. I was just like, I mean, I told like my best friend or whatever, you know, cause I'm meeting a guy that I met from tinder five years ago. Somebody had to know.
HeatherSo they know my location.
KayExactly. So I told her and flew out to Florida. Had a wonderful weekend with this guy. It was out of a fairy tale. Everything was so good and I didn't even want to leave. It was that good. So when I flew back home and we were talking a little bit more, he was like, we need to plan the next trip. Like you got to come back out. And I was like, I want to come out longer. A weekend wasn't not enough. So I was like, all right, I'm going to plan.
HeatherWere you working from home?
KayI was hybrid.
HeatherOkay. So you had,
Kayso I, yeah, I was working from home, but then so I could plan a trip I had built up my PTO because nobody was doing anything, so I had the time to take anyway. That weekend was, it was Memorial Day weekend that I flew out.
HeatherGirl, this might be the same week. No, we weren't 20, it wasn't 2020, nevermind?
KayOur schedules didn't really mesh, so the next time I was able to actually go out there for a week was in July. Okay. So, Six to eight weeks later. Well, first of all, July trying to travel to Florida, the storms. My flight was delayed eight hours. I was supposed to be on the flight at noon. I didn't get on a flight until eight o'clock that night. Yes. Yes. And I was, I was so upset about it. And he's like, it's all right, babe.
HeatherOh, cause you wasted like a whole day in the airport.
KayAnd every time, every single time they're like, We're boarding and then they're like, not boarding. Yeah. And I was frustrated. Like, I just wanted to be with him and he's like, it's okay, babe. Once you get here, everything's gonna be fine. And he was keeping me calm. So I'm like, This is what I need in my life. I need this kind of energy. Finally get there. Everything's great. First night's great. It's 3 o'clock in the morning. I wake up. For some reason, I always wake up at 3 a. m. 3 a. m. Always.
HeatherIt's the witching hour
KayI wake up. He's not there. And I'm like
HeatherYou're at his house, right? You stayed
KayYeah. At his house. And I'm like, Um, maybe he's in the bathroom, or So, I go back to sleep. 5 o'clock in the morning, wake up. He's not there! I'm like, okay, I don't know what's going on, but I turn on TV. I'm watching TV or whatever. Can't go back to sleep. 7 a. m. comes around. He walks in and I'm like, are you working? Like, what? Oh, no, I couldn't sleep. So I went for a walk. Sir, you've been gone since before 3 a. m.
HeatherThat's weird. Y'all gotta stop trusting people, leaving them in your goddamn house. You're gonna get robbed.
KayLike, okay, that's a, that's a fluke, whatever. The whole week had been stuff like that. Like him just disappearing. Him saying, I'll be right back. And disappearing. I'm at your house for a week.
HeatherYou flew me out.
KayYes. And you just disappear on me.
HeatherLike hours?
KayHours.
HeatherAlways in the middle of the night or just random times at this point?
KayRandom times. And he'd be like, oh I couldn't sleep, I couldn't do this, I needed to smoke, I needed to do this. There was always an excuse for it but it was just like weird. So at this point I'm ready to go.
HeatherYou don't want to sit in your house.
KayAt this point I just, I'd rather go home and sit in my own house. By myself with my dogs. So eventually I, I, I said something, I'm like, look, I've been here. You haven't been here. Like, this is nothing like it was last time. What the fuck is going on? And he's like, I'm sorry. I'm just going through a lot. Blah, blah, blah. Let's go to the movies. I was like, all right, finally, we're going to do something together. Finally, whatever.
HeatherOh, that's right. Cause COVID.
KayRight. He's like, I got this perfect theater. So we get to the theater and it's like one of those old school theaters, no reclining seats, the old auditorium type. We get there super early and the movie is not for another like hour, hour 15.
HeatherRight.
KaySo they wouldn't let us in obviously. Right. Um, and he's like, Oh, I'm going to get some popcorn. Mind you, this entire week that I was with him, this man did not eat, okay? I never saw him eat. The weekend that we were together, we went out to eat all the time.
HeatherRight.
KayThis week, he wasn't eating.
HeatherThat's where he was going. He was going to eat.
KayThat's what I'm like, either he was going to eat or he was doing some kind of drug that he didn't have an appetite or something, like something, because he was not eating. So, he bought popcorn. And smashed the popcorn in like minutes. And I was like, okay, I guess you're hungry, whatever.
HeatherI like popcorn too.
KayI mean, at the movies, who doesn't want popcorn? I was just excited to see him finally eat. So they let us in the theater and he's like, I need more popcorn. So he runs to get popcorn. And I'm looking around, it's pitch black in there, like, there's no, like, pre show stuff going on yet, and COVID, so we're the only ones in the theater. He comes back, so every time he comes through the doors, I can hear the doors. Right? Right. So he comes back, and he's like, yeah, this theater is haunted. And I'm like, bro, I love haunted shit, but don't tell me that, okay? Like, I don't want my real life haunted. I wanna watch it, I don't want real life hauntings. So, I was like, yeah, mm mm, mm mm. And he's like, I'll be right back. And I'm like, what? After you just told me that this theater is haunted, you're just gonna leave me here? So he gets up, I don't know.
HeatherLike, I'll go with you.
KayLike, right, but like I thought he was gonna get more food. But he had just gotten popcorn. So I'm like, where the fuck is he going? Like, maybe he's going to the bathroom. Cool. I turn around to see him leave, and there's a woman, like, maybe three or four rows behind me. Long brown hair just sitting there and I was like, okay, I'm not alone anymore. Fine. So I'm sitting there on my phone Talking to my best friend like this motherfucker left me in this theater after he told me it was haunted and I kid you not 45 minutes pass now normally If this happened while I was here, I would have left.
HeatherRight, you're with him.
KayBut like, he drove.
HeatherRight.
KayMy stuff is at his house. I'm in Florida. Like, I can't, I have to wait around.
HeatherRight.
Kay45 minutes passed. He comes back in, high as fuck. He was like, I needed to smoke. I was feeling a little anxious. That's fine, bro, but like, say something.
HeatherOutside smoking.
KayYeah, say something. Like, I So
Heatherwho smokes for 45 minutes.
KayWhy are you in your car for 45 minutes when you have a girl that flew out to be with you and you're just like, everything about that week was, I felt like, in the movie theater I was like, this is the twilight zone, like this is not real because my weekend with him was out of a a. Fairytale.
HeatherHow many days were you there when you went for the?
KayFive.
HeatherOkay.
KayLike, the week, it was like Monday through Friday, the week with him, it was like, what the fuck? What is this?
HeatherRight, he could hide it in the weekend, but he couldn't hide it for that damn many days.
KaySo, we watched the movie. I'm super excited for this movie.
HeatherSo he does come back 45 minutes later.
Kay45 minutes later, the movie starts. Yeah, like he came right before the movie was gonna start.
HeatherWhat were you seeing?
KayThe M. Night Shyamalan movie, Old. It's like a thriller. Okay. Yeah. It's horror.
HeatherSo they left you in a haunted theater
Kaysee a horror movie.
HeatherBy yourself.
KayMm hmm.
HeatherThat's nice.
KayMm hmm. As he's coming back, I hear the door, but like when I turn around, that woman's gone. And I'm like, oh, I didn't hear her leave. That's weird. So the movie starts
Heatherand he left again
Kayanything. No, he's in he's in We watched the movie the movie ends and we could hear the storm. So there's a storm happening Right, but like when you leave out of the movie theater like the front You have to go all the way around to get to your car.
HeatherOkay.
KayAnd I was like, I'm not going out in the rain.
HeatherPull the shit around.
KayBut it's like a main road, so he can't just stop there. So we have to go out the back. So he's like, let's just go out the exit. You know, when you're in a movie theater and they tell you, know where your exits are. There's an exit back there. Let's just go back there. So we go back. And the woman that I saw, Was like, you can't go back there. And he's like, come on, there's an exit right here. He opens the door, you can see pouring. So he goes to get the car closer to that door. So I'm just standing there and the woman's like, you can't leave. You can't go out this door.
HeatherWas she an employee?
KayThat's what I was thinking.
HeatherIs this a suggestion?
KayExactly.
HeatherA demand? A threat?
KayI was like, I, it's, it's pouring rain. That's I'm not running out that way. We're just gonna we're just gonna leave out this door. That's fine. It's gonna take two seconds. Who cares? So he comes in he Brings me an umbrella runs me to the car and I was like that woman kept telling me That we can't go out this door. He's like what woman?
HeatherOh my god,
Kayyou didn't see the woman with long brown hair standing there just telling us we couldn't go through you did not see her He's like there was not a woman there. We were alone in the theater. I was like she was there You When you went to get popcorn you had to have seen her she was right behind us. There was no woman. He left me In a haunted theater! Alone. Alone. Luckily, she, and like looking back, it was like, she was probably trying to save me. Like, girl, you don't want to leave with him.
HeatherCome with me.
KayCome with me. Like, stay here. Don't go with him. But after that, I
HeatherDo you think he was lying?
KayI hope not, because I feel like he made me feel crazy. Like, that entire, you know, day, let alone that entire week.
HeatherBut you didn't hear her go out.
KayRight, I never heard the door. I would hear the door when he went out. But not her. And I never saw her again until we tried to go out that door.
HeatherWas she standing there? Sitting there?
KayShe was standing right by the door. And she's like, you can't go out that door. But I didn't see her because when we went, we went to the front to check with how the rain was going. And then when we came back to go to the exit door, then she was standing there.
HeatherThat's crazy.
KaySo I'm like, you had to have seen her. Like, what do you mean? There was no woman. Because he never, he'd never replied to her when she said, you can't go through this door. He's like, we're gonna go through the door. I'm like, I'm the one that's like, We can't go through this door because she said we can't go through this door and I'm telling her oh, it's cool He's just gonna bring the car around He's like, I'm just gonna bring the car about he told me I'm gonna bring the car about so I was with her like He's just gonna get the car. It's gonna be real quick.
HeatherThat's creepy.
KayYeah,
Heatherthat's really creepy.
KayIt was so creepy
HeatherI believe that he didn't see her now
Kayas she's standing there. Yeah, so after that point I was like,
Heatherdid she have modern clothes on? Well, you probably couldn't see because you were saying
KayIt was dark, but she had on like a burgundy, like a polo type of shirt.
HeatherOkay.
KaySo, It wasn't like,
HeatherOoh, we're gonna look this place up.
KayYeah.
HeatherWe're gonna have to, Yeah. Yeah, investigate. Yeah.
KayCause I was like, What do you mean? You didn't see her. She was talking to us.
HeatherShe was behind us.
KayShe was sitting behind us. What do you mean? So, After all that, I was like, I'm ready to go home.
HeatherThat was my sign.
KayLike, I gotta go. Yeah,
Heatherthat was your official sign.
BothYeah,
Kayand I had no issues. It was raining all day every day. I had no issues the day I flew out because it was time to go and he hit me up maybe like three months later because I was kind of like ghosting him at that point because I can't believe you after all that. No, that's too much. I didn't know. I didn't know if he had a secret girl. Like my, my aunt was like, he was probably going home to his wife in the middle of the night. I don't know if probably
HeatherIf he wasn't eating, then it probably was some kind of drug.
KayLike, that's what I was like, I don't know if it's another woman, I don't know if it's drugs, but he would disappear for hours at a time, wouldn't eat. Like, it was just so weird that it didn't feel like the same person that I spent this wonderful weekend with, you know? Yeah. So I was just like, I'm ready to go. Kind of ghosted him, but he hit me up like three months later like, Hey, I'm in town visiting family. I was wondering if I could stay with you one night. Absolutely not, sir. Absolutely not. I'm
Heatherlike, yeah, you can meet me here at 3 p. m. And then block his fucking number.
KayAnd yeah, I haven't talked to him since.
HeatherWow. That's crazy. Can I stay with you?
KayYeah. Yes. The gall, the nerve, the audacity.
HeatherOh my gosh, that's weird. Well, I think that woman was a ghost.
KayI think so too. And I never, I didn't think about it until like months later. I'm like, wait a minute.
HeatherHe didn't acknowledge her.
KayHe didn't acknowledge her.
HeatherFor nothing.
KayHe didn't say shit.
HeatherI believe him.
KayCrazy. So that leads me to Icks and Licks. Icks and Licks is our game where we're going to tell you. a scenario, a describing trait, and if you like it, it's a lick. If you don't like it, it's an ick. So, smoking is not necessarily an ick or a lick for me.
HeatherDo you mean cigarette or green?
KayOkay.
HeatherI just feel like there's a difference.
KayThere is a difference, yes. Smoking cigarettes is an ick.
HeatherYeah.
KayI have asthma. I don't want to smell it. I don't want to be near you because it'll make me sick. Smoking green is not necessarily an ick or a lick for me.
HeatherRight.
KayThe ick with smoking is when you can't make your life anything other than green. Smoking.
HeatherRight.
KayThat's the ick
Heatherwhen you're going outside for 45 minutes. Yeah.
KayWhen you are leaving someone who flew out to be with you.
HeatherIn a theater.
KayJust to smoke. Like, I'm not even like against it. I don't smoke myself.
HeatherRight.
KayBut like, if he wanted to sit in the car before the movie and smoke, that wouldn't have bothered me. What bothered me is you leaving me by myself in a haunted theater.
HeatherPeople can just like, Okay, good. It could be the green version of being an alcoholic.
KayYeah.
HeatherAnd that's where, yeah, yeah. You could definitely. Not necessarily it's an addiction. We can fight that all day long. But when it becomes, when it interferes with anything.
KayYeah.
HeatherLike anything.
KayThat's the ick. That's the ick for me.
HeatherI get it. I would agree completely. Oh, I'll see how you feel about this one. Men with children under the age of 8.
KayI'm gonna say that's an ick. And I'm not holding that against them. Like, everybody has lives. You've lived your life, you have a life before me. I don't want to be involved with someone who has young children. Because I don't have children, so I'm not going to bring that baggage, not saying children is baggage, but I'm not bringing that to you. I want you to be on that same level with me. Young children, you have to be so much more involved.
HeatherAgree. It's a huge ick for me because I will not date. a crappy father.
KayYeah.
HeatherSo I want you to be involved. I don't know what that situation is like, whether she's good or, you know, you guys get along or you don't. That's just young. At that point, bro, go back to your, go back to your baby mama, figure it out.
KayYou think so?
HeatherYeah. So, yes, absolutely. And then the, my kids are older, so I just won't.
KayI did date a guy who had a young daughter and I felt like his ex was still. Like we, I don't want to be with you, but he would be like, I would be with her again, right? In a heartbeat. Mm hmm. So the youngness is a problem because he could potentially go back home.
HeatherYeah, it's just so, I mean, eight's not fresh by any means, but you know, they were probably still recently together. Still trying to figure out if they're in love. Just get back together. Yeah, get your home back together. Leave other people alone,
KayRight. I could have been okay without you, sir.
HeatherYeah.
KayNow you brought
Heatherme and now I'm just old and grumpy, so I don't wanna deal with your little kids. Yeah. I have older kids
Kayin the, the same realm as the kids. An ick for me is you desperately wanting me to meet your kid.
HeatherYes.
KayThat's an ick.
HeatherOh yes, girl.
KayLike, especially if we haven't been dating for a long time. If you want me to meet your child there, that's a, I think
Heatheryou think not only that, so they. Think of how many other people.
KayExactly.
HeatherMy kids don't mean anyone. That's one thing. I have no problem with keeping that separate. You don't need to bring your kids around someone until you know.
KayUnless it's super serious.
HeatherThey're going
Bothto stay.
KayRight. That part.
HeatherYeah, because you want, at that point you're like, okay, well I met the kid. I want to build a relationship with the kid.
KayYeah.
HeatherAnd then when it doesn't work out, realistically, when it doesn't work out because it's rushed,
KayExactly.
Heatherthe kids too.
KayExactly.
HeatherEspecially if it's a little girl. I have boys, so if I meet someone's daughter, I'm going to get hmm. And that's again, when I don't want to, when little girls, like, oh my gosh. But I don't want something like that ripped away. And then they're the child neither. It's not fair to like, develop a relationship with them and then.
KayBut also being a hot dad is a lick.
HeatherOh, absolutely. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
KayA guy that is going to devote his life to taking care of his kids, making sure his kids are good. That's a lick.
HeatherAbsolutely. I'll still. You know, but you can have, just have your home life separate from your day in life. I don't need to meet any of that until we know something serious is going to go on. But you'd be the best dad. If you could only see me one day a week because you've been in a mess with your kids, I love it. I love it so much.
KayThat's so hot.
HeatherI can't, I don't understand how women go out there and date men that don't see their kids for any, no, right to you. Even if he's like, I don't see my kids because she's XYZ. It's crazy. Who cares that's who cares because either she's crazy and doesn't want him you to see the kids or He's crazy and he doesn't take care of his kids get out of that situation. Don't entertain it Don't play into the middle of it. If he doesn't see his kids. Don't see him.
KayYeah. How do you feel about dad bods? Is that an ick or a lick?
HeatherI don't I don't I my type is skinny but only because what comes along with being skinny, but um, I
KayCaught that I don't know if you guys
Heatherthen I do not care about the inches in your waist. I don't care. I don't care. I got a soft little mom bod, so.
KayYeah, like, I, I, yeah. It's not an ick or a lick for me.
HeatherAnd then, because then if you work out, that's time that you're, that's something else you're giving your attention to. So, you know. I'm
Kaygoing to work out with them, though. I want someone to motivate me to work out
Heatherright.
KaySo.
HeatherI'm going to walk in. We can work out. We're right here.
KayThis is where we work out.
HeatherThis is where none of the magic happens. Um, Ooh, this is a good one because I know that we don't agree on this one. Bald heads.
KaySee, bald heads automatically put me into dad. Like, I think of a dad when I think of a guy with a bald head. So. I
Heatherlove me a bald head. I love heads.
KayI'm not doing it. I want to, like, run my hands through your hair. I want to, like, feel that.
HeatherTrue. True. True. And I mean, if you got a nice head of hair, by all means. But what I was saying the other day, like, when you, you know,
KayYeah, if it's going, let it go.
HeatherGet rid of it!
KayIf it's going, let it go.
HeatherIf you're trying to hide, if you're trying to manipulate your hair to hide a bald Get rid of that shit.
KayLet it go.
HeatherI love me a bald head. Oh my god. I like to hold them and there's like no hair in my way.
BothWho's
Heatherbaby? A
Bothlittle baby!
KayShe's such a mom!
HeatherOh my gosh, yes, I am.
KayOh god, that's hilarious.
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KayOoh, you stuck around for the tip!
HeatherWe went out one night. I think it would have been after a game. We went to a game. We went to eat. And then we went and we drove around. We smoked and then we went back to his house. And this man had sex with me to white snake. Do you know who white snake is? Def Leppard. Like 80s hair music. Little white trash heart. Was so full. I wouldn't say this was like a fantasy, but it was just something that I didn't know that it It was something that I didn't know that I needed to do. I was like, oh my god, so he ruined so many songs for me. Thank you so much, L6. But I was like, oh, I really, I really like this. This is really cute. Like he's really, he's really gonna change.